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+16:59:05 <dondelelcaro> #startmeeting
+16:59:05 <MeetBot> Meeting started Wed Jun 24 16:59:05 2015 UTC. The chair is dondelelcaro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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+16:59:08 <dondelelcaro> #topic Who is here?
+16:59:10 <dondelelcaro> Don Armstrong
+16:59:31 <dondelelcaro> hartmans sent in regrets
+16:59:48 <OdyX> Didier Raboud
+17:00:33 * aba
+17:01:01 <vorlon> Steve Langasek
+17:01:32 <dondelelcaro> bdale, keithp, Mithrandir: ping
+17:01:37 <dondelelcaro> #topic Next Meeting?
+17:01:37 <Mithrandir> hihi
+17:01:45 <dondelelcaro> currently it's 7/29 at 17:00
+17:02:00 <dondelelcaro> then 8/26 at 17:00, which is also during debconf, so I suspect that meeting will be sometime else
+17:02:23 <Mithrandir> should be fine from my pov.
+17:02:24 <dondelelcaro> I think bdale applied for a debconf event, and I'll try to be available on IRC whenever that actually happens
+17:02:27 <aba> btw, I submitted the debconf bof
+17:02:40 <dondelelcaro> ah, aba did; cool!
+17:02:56 <vorlon> fwiw it seems the standard meeting time arrived at by the vote is one I have a standing work conflict with
+17:03:02 <aba> and I think I'll not deactivate the "needs video streaming"
+17:03:10 <OdyX> I won't make it to 7/29
+17:03:16 <dondelelcaro> ok
+17:03:17 <vorlon> (I was busy at the time this was voted on and didn't get a chance to respond to the poll)
+17:03:19 <aba> vorlon: then we should fix that
+17:03:44 <dondelelcaro> I'll update the poll options in the vote, and we can re-vote
+17:03:52 <vorlon> cheers
+17:03:59 <Mithrandir> or just add vorlon's preferences and rerun the script?
+17:04:20 <dondelelcaro> Mithrandir: right; I figure I'll update the dates, and then everyone can change their preferences if necessary
+17:04:26 <Mithrandir> wfm
+17:04:29 <aba> depends on whether vorlon wants to propose additional options
+17:04:30 * OdyX nods
+17:04:34 <vorlon> I probably don't :)
+17:04:43 <aba> but both should wfm
+17:04:52 <dondelelcaro> #action dondelelcaro to update dates and people can revote the standard meeting time
+17:05:06 <dondelelcaro> lets try to get that done some time before next week, so people can get it on their calendar.
+17:05:13 <dondelelcaro> #topic #741573 menu systems and mime-support
+17:05:49 <dondelelcaro> I drafted the balot for this; sam has done the legwork to try to work out the original process, and I think that's mostly done now
+17:05:52 <OdyX> thanks to hartmans for the move on this
+17:06:06 * keithp is here
+17:06:23 <dondelelcaro> yeah; it'd be good to get this one cleared up
+17:06:40 <aba> yep
+17:06:45 <aba> (i.e. well done)
+17:07:12 <dondelelcaro> are there options which were not included in the ballot which people would like to see?
+17:07:27 <dondelelcaro> and does anyone object to calling for a vote in three weeks time?
+17:07:31 <keithp> I'll be afk on 7/29 as well
+17:07:52 <keithp> (afk for three weeks starting 7/12
+17:08:02 <OdyX_> For me the ballot is fine like it is
+17:08:04 <dondelelcaro> keithp: ok
+17:09:24 <dondelelcaro> I mainly want to wait three weeks to give people who feel strongly about charles's plan (or bill's plan) to raise objections, and perhaps sway the committee, or alternatively, start drafting changes which can be picked up by consensus by the policy team
+17:09:54 <dondelelcaro> thinking too, I should probably make it clear in the ballot that whatever we decide can be changed by the policy team in the future working through it's normal process
+17:10:03 <Mithrandir> this is the ballot in dla_draft.txt, right?
+17:10:03 <OdyX> on one hand I think we waited enough… On the other hand, did you mail policy@ with this 3 weeks idea ?
+17:10:12 <dondelelcaro> Mithrandir: right
+17:10:14 <dondelelcaro> OdyX: no
+17:10:24 <dondelelcaro> OdyX: but I will, assuming there aren't any objections here
+17:10:53 <aba> none here
+17:11:02 <dondelelcaro> since I basically came with that number out of my head, and wanted to run it by you all first
+17:11:09 <Mithrandir> sounds fine to me
+17:12:06 <vorlon> +1
+17:12:07 <dondelelcaro> ok; does anyone object to me modifying the draft to make it clear that the policy team can change what we decide in the future through their normal process?
+17:12:26 <dondelelcaro> #agreed vote on ballot in three weeks time giving time for objections
+17:12:46 <aba> dondelelcaro: I think that should be the default unless we explicitly don't want it
+17:13:05 <dondelelcaro> aba: I think so too, but I realized just now that that might not be clear
+17:13:21 <Mithrandir> yes, please make it explicit.
+17:13:38 <aba> please make it explicit, but also that this is our default expectation
+17:13:58 <dondelelcaro> #action dondelelcaro to modify the draft slightly to make it explicit that the policy team can modify the voted plan using their normal process
+17:14:17 <dondelelcaro> #topic #636783 constitution: super-majority bug
+17:14:19 <dondelelcaro> et al
+17:14:36 <dondelelcaro> I think I was supposed to skip these in this meting unless there was any action, so I'm going to do that
+17:14:52 <dondelelcaro> #topic #771070 Coordinate plan and requirements for cross toolchain packages in Debian
+17:15:18 <OdyX> I just sent a mail to debian-ctte-private and interested parties (the 4 basically)
+17:15:53 <OdyX> I hope intent and formulation are okay
+17:15:58 <dondelelcaro> I personally haven't done anything else on this; the letter looked fine to me
+17:16:34 <OdyX> so we're waiting for their answers…
+17:17:32 <dondelelcaro> yeah
+17:17:41 <OdyX> I'll try to coordinate a space-time for this with them, let's see then which of us can be there too.
+17:17:44 <dondelelcaro> cool
+17:17:59 <dondelelcaro> does anyone have anything else on this issue?
+17:18:01 <keithp> sounds good to me
+17:18:06 <OdyX> #info OdyX mailed the private ctte mailing list and the 4 involved parties.
+17:18:23 <dondelelcaro> #topic Additional Business
+17:18:37 <dondelelcaro> thanks everyone for voting and clearing out the aptitude maintainer issue
+17:18:45 <OdyX> yeah, good thing past us.
+17:18:48 <aba> thanks
+17:19:36 <dondelelcaro> anyone have anything else?
+17:20:00 <vorlon> nothing from me
+17:20:04 <Mithrandir> nope
+17:20:28 <OdyX> nope
+17:21:03 <dondelelcaro> #endmeeting
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+====================
+#debian-ctte Meeting
+====================
+
+
+Meeting started by dondelelcaro at 16:59:05 UTC. The full logs are
+available at
+http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-ctte/2015/debian-ctte.2015-06-24-16.59.log.html
+.
+
+
+
+Meeting summary
+---------------
+* Who is here? (dondelelcaro, 16:59:08)
+
+* Next Meeting? (dondelelcaro, 17:01:37)
+ * ACTION: dondelelcaro to update dates and people can revote the
+ standard meeting time (dondelelcaro, 17:04:52)
+
+* #741573 menu systems and mime-support (dondelelcaro, 17:05:13)
+ * AGREED: vote on ballot in three weeks time giving time for
+ objections (dondelelcaro, 17:12:26)
+ * ACTION: dondelelcaro to modify the draft slightly to make it
+ explicit that the policy team can modify the voted plan using their
+ normal process (dondelelcaro, 17:13:58)
+
+* #636783 constitution: super-majority bug (dondelelcaro, 17:14:17)
+
+* #771070 Coordinate plan and requirements for cross toolchain packages
+ in Debian (dondelelcaro, 17:14:52)
+ * OdyX mailed the private ctte mailing list and the 4 involved
+ parties. (OdyX, 17:18:06)
+
+* Additional Business (dondelelcaro, 17:18:23)
+
+Meeting ended at 17:21:03 UTC.
+
+
+
+
+Action Items
+------------
+* dondelelcaro to update dates and people can revote the standard
+ meeting time
+* dondelelcaro to modify the draft slightly to make it explicit that the
+ policy team can modify the voted plan using their normal process
+
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+Action Items, by person
+-----------------------
+* dondelelcaro
+ * dondelelcaro to update dates and people can revote the standard
+ meeting time
+ * dondelelcaro to modify the draft slightly to make it explicit that
+ the policy team can modify the voted plan using their normal process
+* **UNASSIGNED**
+ * (none)
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+* aba (12)
+* OdyX (12)
+* Mithrandir (8)
+* vorlon (7)
+* keithp (4)
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