From e856b804b84dfb70f129a495fbf7d5e021adc79c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Don Armstrong Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 19:46:38 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] add september meeting --- .../debian-ctte.2013-09-26-17.09.log.txt | 89 +++++++++++++++++++ .../20130926/debian-ctte.2013-09-26-17.09.txt | 75 ++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 164 insertions(+) create mode 100644 meetings/20130926/debian-ctte.2013-09-26-17.09.log.txt create mode 100644 meetings/20130926/debian-ctte.2013-09-26-17.09.txt diff --git a/meetings/20130926/debian-ctte.2013-09-26-17.09.log.txt b/meetings/20130926/debian-ctte.2013-09-26-17.09.log.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..1918ba0 --- /dev/null +++ b/meetings/20130926/debian-ctte.2013-09-26-17.09.log.txt @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +17:09:41 #startmeeting +17:09:41 Meeting started Thu Sep 26 17:09:41 2013 UTC. The chair is dondelelcaro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. +17:09:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. +17:10:21 cjwatson: sounds good +17:10:39 hello +17:11:16 #topic #681419 Depends: foo | foo-nonfree +17:11:38 OK, I'll repeat for the benefit of the log +17:11:47 Well; I have finally caught up on #681419, and I think that (a) Ian has persuaded me to support his option by way of his addition of the phrase "non-release-critical" (I'm not convinced about the practical effects of the rest of it, but that addition means it isn't entirely hard-line and there's a get-out for exceptional cases), and (b) I'd like to call for a vote soon +17:12:01 Unless there are objections of the form "need more time to consider it, and am actually going to do so soon" :-) +17:12:27 so I still don't agree, and will still vote against, and still have not made the time to write up my alternate resolution +17:12:48 (I will check when Ian gets back first though, since it'd be rude to call for a vote on something he cares about when he's not available to participate) +17:12:54 vorlon: You also don't agree with option A? +17:13:23 cjwatson: can you point me to option A? +17:13:42 vorlon: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/debian-ctte.git;a=blob;f=681419_free_non_free_dependencies/cjwatson_draft.txt;h=f07b7d1c25adeb69d113640b1a5a900923cc0621;hb=HEAD +17:14:31 yeah, it appears that matches my opinion +17:14:45 so I guess I was supposed to only write up on the mailing list *why* I agree with it +17:15:39 I would find that useful, since I appear to be a swing vote +17:16:56 ok; drafting the mail now ;) +17:16:59 Thanks +17:17:13 OK, that's probably all, move on :) +17:18:10 btw, could we still add bug #719738 to the agenda for today? +17:18:37 yep +17:18:46 cjwatson: I'm fine with #681419 moving to a vote +17:19:42 03Steve Langasek 05master 3b3c6ee 06debian-ctte 10meetings/agenda.txt Add bug #719738 to the agenda (late) +17:20:36 #topic #717076 Decide between libjpeg-turbo and libjpeg8 et al. +17:21:08 it seemed to me that we had concensus last time modulo any new information coming to us .. I haven't seen anything new? +17:21:19 diziet is supposed to draft this, so that's all that needs to be said here +17:21:31 #topic #685795 New ctte member +17:21:46 regrettably, I've made no time for this since our last meeting +17:21:54 no worries; just hitting everything +17:22:09 #topic #636783 super-majority conflict; +17:22:44 I think I was supposed to provide input to this, and haven't +17:22:45 bdale: I think this one was just waiting for a comment from you before we proceed +17:22:49 yeah +17:23:10 #topic #719738 lvm2 - Add systemd support +17:24:01 vorlon: I think that your point that we should have the technical component of this discussion in the open is well taken +17:24:10 ok +17:24:18 is there a consensus that we should just go ahead and do that? +17:24:34 I have my own technical concerns about the generator stuff +17:24:41 which I suspect are aligned with waldi's +17:24:48 yeah +17:24:53 but I think the right place to figure that out is in the public bug, not in a private mediation +17:25:08 I agree with that +17:25:28 right. I believe mediation should be about people, technical issues should be decided publicly. +17:26:28 we should probably delegate the lead mediation to someone, and then continue the technical discussion in the bug +17:26:48 so since Michael (Stapelberg) has now said yes to having the technical discussion in public, I'm happy to take the action to start that up +17:27:02 ok +17:27:13 bug #719738 is not assigned to us currently and is marked closed... should I reopen/reassign, clone, file a new bug? +17:27:38 reopening and reassigning to us sounds reasonable +17:27:44 ok, will do +17:27:50 (you'll have to unarchive it too) +17:27:55 who closed it? +17:28:00 Bastian had done so +17:28:16 oh, right, I see that now +17:28:17 (triggering the private CTTE query, I think) +17:28:29 yep, makes sense +17:28:35 I had missed the detail that the bug was now closed +17:28:45 or forgot +17:29:41 ok - seems there's nothing further to say on that right now +17:30:00 #action vorlon to restart the technical discussion +17:30:40 I suppose I probably should keep working on the mediation side of things, probably with Ian +17:31:09 ok +17:31:16 #topic Next Meeting? +17:31:22 it would certainly be better if all parties re-engaged in the technical discussion, mediation might help that +17:31:41 yeah +17:31:56 currently it's the same time on the 31st of november +17:32:05 err, october +17:32:16 is that okay for everyone? +17:32:21 I'm traveling that week and likely won't make it +17:32:26 ok +17:32:45 is a week earlier (the 24th) better for people? +17:32:48 for me yes +17:32:52 checking +17:33:06 yes +17:33:19 ok +17:33:28 it's in the middle of ELCE, but I've decided not to travel to Edinburgh since my daughter will be home that week +17:33:31 ditto vorlon +17:33:35 (on both counts) +17:33:51 #agreed next meeting on the 24th instead of the 31st +17:34:06 I trust you'll update the file so my calendar will just get updated? +17:34:12 yep +17:34:17 great, thanks +17:34:25 #action dondelelcaro to update calendar for meeting +17:34:41 #topic Additional Business +17:34:58 anything else? +17:35:28 not from me +17:35:51 nothing here +17:36:04 cool +17:36:11 #endmeeting \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/meetings/20130926/debian-ctte.2013-09-26-17.09.txt b/meetings/20130926/debian-ctte.2013-09-26-17.09.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..0ef708e --- /dev/null +++ b/meetings/20130926/debian-ctte.2013-09-26-17.09.txt @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +==================== +#debian-ctte Meeting +==================== + + +Meeting started by dondelelcaro at 17:09:41 UTC. The full logs are +available at +http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-ctte/2013/debian-ctte.2013-09-26-17.09.log.html +. + + + +Meeting summary +--------------- +* #681419 Depends: foo | foo-nonfree (dondelelcaro, 17:11:16) + +* #717076 Decide between libjpeg-turbo and libjpeg8 et al. + (dondelelcaro, 17:20:36) + +* #685795 New ctte member (dondelelcaro, 17:21:31) + +* #636783 super-majority conflict; (dondelelcaro, 17:22:09) + +* #719738 lvm2 - Add systemd support (dondelelcaro, 17:23:10) + * ACTION: vorlon to restart the technical discussion (dondelelcaro, + 17:30:00) + +* Next Meeting? (dondelelcaro, 17:31:16) + * AGREED: next meeting on the 24th instead of the 31st (dondelelcaro, + 17:33:51) + * ACTION: dondelelcaro to update calendar for meeting (dondelelcaro, + 17:34:25) + +* Additional Business (dondelelcaro, 17:34:41) + +Meeting ended at 17:36:11 UTC. + + + + +Action Items +------------ +* vorlon to restart the technical discussion +* dondelelcaro to update calendar for meeting + + + + +Action Items, by person +----------------------- +* dondelelcaro + * dondelelcaro to update calendar for meeting +* vorlon + * vorlon to restart the technical discussion +* **UNASSIGNED** + * (none) + + + + +People Present (lines said) +--------------------------- +* dondelelcaro (37) +* vorlon (21) +* bdale (17) +* cjwatson (11) +* MeetBot (2) +* KGB-3 (1) + + + + +Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 + +.. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- 2.39.5