* Issue http://bugs.debian.org/682010 http://bugs.debian.org/675971
** Mumble in unstable/testing currently cannot interact with other clients and servers
- + Due to the removal of celt 0.7.1 (?)
+ + Due to the removal of celt http://bugs.debian.org/676592
+ + Mumble dropping speex in unstable and speex not being selected at higher bandwidths
+ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=675971#51
+ Interoperation: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=675971#61
* Possible solutions
** Include celt 0.7.1 as a convenience copy
+ Security Issues with embedded copies
+ + Mitigated as mumble would have the only copy
+ Unspecified possible security issues
+ + Potential remote crasher
+ -348 is currently this way in testing
** Upload a celt 0.7.1 package
+ No maintainer desires to deal with this (apparently?)
+ + Upstream do not wish additional packages to use celt; wish transition to opus
+ Unspecified possible security issues
** Use speex instead
+ Server (and clients?) do not select speex as an option unless bandwidth is low
+ + May be resolved by Thorvald Natvig with a hack
** Use only opus
- + Not yet (?) released upstream
+ + Opus itself released upstream
+ + Code to enable mumble does not exist in
+ May not communicate with non-opus clients
* Open questions
** Can speex be made to be an option?
+ + Thorvald thinks so; no patch as of yet (off for a week?)
** Is a convenience copy acceptable, assuming mumble is the only thing with it?
+ + Possible remote crasher bug is the primary objection to allowing this
** What are the other clients that we want to make sure the mumble servers can communicate with?
+|--------------------+----------------------+----------------+-----------+-----------|
+| client/server | Deb 1.2.2-6+squeeze1 | Deb 1.2.3-2+b2 | Deb "348" | Deb "349" |
+|--------------------+----------------------+----------------+-----------+-----------|
+| Deb. Client "348" | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
+| Deb. Client "349" | No | No | Yes | Yes |
+| Win. Client 1.2.3a | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
+| Win. Client "361" | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
+| Mac Client 1.2.2 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
+|--------------------+----------------------+----------------+-----------+-----------|
+* Resolutions
* Involved parties
** Chris.Knadle@coredump.us, Ron <ron@debian.org>, 682010@bugs.debian.org, 675971@bugs.debian.org, Nicos Gollan <gtdev@spearhead.de>, Thorvald Natvig <thorvald@natvig.com>